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Credit Crunch vs. Central Banks - You Lose

by gjohnsit
Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 10:04:38 AM PST
Kos

"If I had to be bold I’d say we began a recession in December."
- Bill Gross, Pimco Funds founder


The credit crunch that started in August is threatening to bring the economies of the entire 1st world to a grinding halt.
To combat that the central banks of America and Europe are pumping cheap money into the markets at an unprecedented rate. These actions are not without consequences.

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YESTERDAY WE LEARNED that the British government's guarantee to bail out Northern Rock's creditors is worth a staggering £100 billion. That's £5,000 [$10,000] per British household. This week the European Central Bank made $500 billion available through money market operations. And only last week $110bn of new money was created by central bank loans with artificially low rates and reduced-quality security. This is money creation on an epic scale.


I find it astounding how half a Trillion dollars could get pushed out into the markets over just two weeks, and yet get almost unnoticed by the press.

What's more, this isn't the only cheap money injections that have been happening recently. The Federal Reserve has created an auction system (as opposed to the discount window) for banks to exchange bad loans for loans from the Federal Reserve. Thus by anonymous means, they are pumping $20 Billion of cash into the system every day, on a semi-permanent basis.

These are enormous numbers, but what do they mean? Isn't this what the central banks are supposed to do?

Complete Diary on Kos Link


Emphasis added. A most intelligent post here. Complete with graphs and easy to understand. This IS the reason for no media coverage. I've read about this for a long time...but gjohnsit frames this problem well.
suswah
QUOTE (ncMindy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:05 PM) *
I find it astounding how half a Trillion dollars could get pushed out into the markets over just two weeks, and yet get almost unnoticed by the press.

What's more, this isn't the only cheap money injections that have been happening recently. The Federal Reserve has created an auction system (as opposed to the discount window) for banks to exchange bad loans for loans from the Federal Reserve. Thus by anonymous means, they are pumping $20 Billion of cash into the system every day, on a semi-permanent basis.

These are enormous numbers, but what do they mean? Isn't this what the central banks are supposed to do?

Complete Diary on Kos Link[/color]

Emphasis added. A most intelligent post here. Complete with graphs and easy to understand. This IS the reason for no media coverage. I've read about this for a long time...but gjohnsit frames this problem well.


Thanks, Mindy. I'll read it tomorrow and comment. smile.gif
ncMindy
QUOTE (suswah @ Dec 27 2007, 11:13 PM) *
Thanks, Mindy. I'll read it tomorrow and comment. smile.gif


QUOTE (suswah @ Dec 27 2007, 11:13 PM) *
Thanks, Mindy. I'll read it tomorrow and comment. smile.gif


Our foreign policy issues gives cover for economic issues. People are in fear, working too hard to survive, serves a purpose to keep the eye off the ball. Trickle down didn't work in the 80's and for sure not going to work with outsourcing in play. "our goal is clearly not to find a qualified and interested US worker." This country has been fudging the figures so long, most people have no idea. The New York Times had a small comment today, about recession. We have a complicit, corporate controlled media who's not about to tell people the real truth. We had a corporate bank bail out in the 80's, we never learn from our history. Our economy is tracking exactly along the lines in play, before the '29 Great Depression. The banks blame the people...!!!...for subprime mortgage holders or, dumping keys...- "jingle mail" -. How we got here and seem to be staying, falls back of previous administrations. And...hint, hint, it's not Bill Clinton's fault! It is policy, none of which Repubs are good with or deserve any credit for.

A whole lot of articles, over time, one at a time...but never talked about by the media. Credit card crunch, next? One of the most annoying stories, for me, ... after dumping American jobs, cutting of ways to help, hitting up seniors for their pension plans...The Social Security Scare Squad: Reason to Hate the Media No. 567,945 . But...the gov. already has a plan...I know because they called me. Social Security has hired a contractor to contact people with computers who may want to work for them, online...for 9 bucks an hour? Two hours a day? Do WE even TRUST these contractors to pay anybody who will do it? I'm not one of those people! You can tell the Social Security deal evidently, already decided. When, IMO, depends on the '08 election! The 'Baby Boomers' are crap out of luck. They have a reason to take anything or, everything you may have, have had, or, ever will have.


My topic thread just turned into a full frontal assault rant! Just call it Mindy's Rant!

IMHO, it's an American people rant! Honest, somebody please save me, and us from this insanity!!!!
JRE IS honest...he doesn't pretend he could fix everything. But...at least HE knows WHO WE ARE as a people. We know HE WILL give them a fight.
Just turned into, Mindy's campaign '08 statement.

Feel free, everybody spill your guts! We have too many problems going on inside this country. I'm ANGRY, I have grandchildren...who are NOT going to be BETTER OFF than I was, growing up. I'm not the only angry person...am I? unsure.gif Maybe part of my anger comes from growing up when everything DID WORK. Life was simple and complicated, but this point in time is a complete disaster. HOPE, we need HOPE...and WE NEED it NOW!
ncMindy
After I posted my rant...this link came to my email box. This book has been on my reading list, but I've only read excerpts off the net. When I listened to this interview, I realized that we are in the 'economic shock doctrine.' We have all heard or read about the book and author...Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine"... but I had no idea how extensive her knowledge is as an investigative journalist.

Take time and listen...compliments of "Truth Out."

It is a shock! ohmy.gif
ncMindy
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The Free Market: A False Idol After All?

By Peter S. Goodman
The New York Times
Sunday 30 December 2007

For more than a quarter-century, the dominant idea guiding economic policy in the United States and much of the globe has been that the market is unfailingly wise. So wise that the proper role for government is to steer clear and not mess with the gusher of wealth that will flow, trickling down to the every level of society, if only the market is left to do its magic.
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But lately, a striking unease with market forces has entered the conversation. The world confronts problems of staggering complexity and consequence, from a shortage of credit following the mortgage meltdown, to the threat of global warming. Regulation - nasty talk in some quarters, synonymous with pointy-headed bureaucrats choking the market - is suddenly being demanded from unexpected places.
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Liberal critics have long asserted that dogmatic devotion to market forces has skewed American society toward those of greatest means. More wealth is being concentrated in fewer hands, with rich people capturing the best housing, private education and health care services, and, as the argument goes, only crumbs left for everyone else.

That critique informs proposals from Democrats vying for the presidency, as they debate how best to expand access to health care and ways to shift the tax burden to the rich. They are in essence calling for market intervention to redress imbalances. With the gap between the richest and poorest now greater than it has been since the 1920s, these pitches have emerged as central components of their campaigns

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"Untethered market forces lead to bad things," said Mr. Bernstein of the Economic Policy Institute. "You simply can't run an economy as complicated as ours on ideology alone."
judykratochvil
This rant is necessary because everything is broken: our economy, our foreign policy, etc.
ncMindy
QUOTE (judykratochvil @ Jan 3 2008, 04:45 PM) *
This rant is necessary because everything is broken: our economy, our foreign policy, etc.

Thank you, for appreciatating 'my rant' Miss Judy! I just couldn't help myself, it just came rolling out. laugh.gif
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