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2/20/2005
New Wall Street Journal polls find public, even GOP, want Democratic opposition

Some excerpts from a new (`paid-restricted`) Wall Street Journal series of polls.

A new Wall Street Journal/NBC Poll shows 53% of Americans see Iraqi elections as evidence Bush’s policy is working. Yet 60% say the administration should set a public or private timetable for reducing U.S. troops.

Fully 60%, including `one-fourth` of Republicans, say Democrats in Congress should make sure Bush and his party “don’t go too far.” Just 34% want Democrats to “work in a bipartisan way” to help pass the president’s priorities.

Like Bush, new Democratic Chairman Dean polarizes opinion. By 45% to 5%, Democrats say he will project a positive image rather than a negative one; Republicans say the opposite by 37% to 19%. Independents divide more evenly.

By 51% to 43%, adults under 35 continue to favor private accounts over leaving the system’s current structure intact. Those age 35 to 49 now split evenly after slightly favoring Bush’s idea in January. Opposition among those age 50 to 64 has swelled to 57% from 49%.

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[quote]Fully 60%, including `one-fourth` of Republicans, say Democrats in Congress should make sure Bush and his party “don’t go too far.” [/quote]

And pray tell, why don't THEY speak up? This is about the saddest bunch of sad sacks to ever walk the hallowed halls of our government...to say nothing of the biggest bunch of crooks.

My dream for America is simply this - - whoever the next President is should call for a new investigation into some of the so called 'deals' this prostitute laden ring of thieves have negotitated for themselves starting with 9/11 and thier supposed lack of knowledge. Then, this bunch should be tossed into the nearest hoosegow with no keys and no hope for bail.

I know, RL...I can't understand why one would vote for a candidate that one felt this way about....don't these folks trust the guy they would most like to have a beer with?? I guess thats part of the problem as there are plenty of people I wouldn't mind having a drink with that I wouldn't dream of voting into elected office.

This is the danger of the kind of destructive politics we now engage in...Bush won (sort of) by making people dislike Kerry more than they disliked him. This is the result....a president whom many simply do not trust.

The biggest part is they just don't care as long as a republicon wins. They don't care who would work in their best interest. Thats the one strong point about them. They vote a straight ticket where we Dems vote for the best person be they Repug or Dem. Well I for one will never vote for a Repug again. Even is some seem to be working for the people and not corporate interests. You can't trust them to not to lie to you.
Did anyone hear that the 507 swift boat liars are gunning for AARP??? I heard it on MSNBC today. I shot off a `e-mail` to AARP laughing at them for backing the greedy lying GOP. AARP is not going along with Bushco's Social Security plans. I told them they better start backing the Dems for '06. I see many groups who once backed the GOP to start back peddling straight to the Dems. If only they had listened to us sooner. Oh well no use crying over spilled milk

I have never voted for a Republican and I seriously doubt if I ever will. You aren't just voting for a person, you're voting for that entire party and its platform. People need to learn this and learn it well....it doesn't matter how well you like the guy...in the end he's going to do what those behind him tell him....maybe there are some who voted for Republicans are seeing this.

Me too, Teresa. I voted for one independent once, but other than that, I've always voted Democrat all the way and I think I always will unless at some time there is a viable progressive third party. But really, I think the Democrats ought to cover the progressive end of the political spectrum as well as the middle and if they did that and started representing the people exclusively, I'd have no need for third parties ever.

I really do believe in the values that I think are at the core of the Democratic party - freedom, equality, and economic opportunity for all. Because I believe in those values, as long as I see Democrats representing those values, I will always vote for the Democratic party because I want them to be the ones running the show. You're right that it's not about individuals. It's about the party and its collective vision. John Edwards represents the Democratic party extremely well, but he's just one man. One man I would really like to see in the White House, but still just one man.

[quote]Top priorities, embraced by at least 60%, are expanding health care, reducing the deficit and improving public high schools.[/quote]

Gee....sounds alot like the democratic agenda, doesn't it? Especially if one looks at the rest of the numbers in this poll. Who says we need to `re-think` our positions? According to this, Americans favor the progressive views. Our platform is the mainstream.

I've voted for a couple of Green Party candidates locally....mainly as an attempt to lure our local democratic party back to honestly trying to represent the people's views.

The GOP uses the Culture War to enable their prosecution of the Class War.

They get people to vote Guns, Gays and God, and they deliver redistribution of wealth to the economic elite.

Its pathetic.

The morons who vote GOP against their own interests deserve to suffer, but the rest of us don't.

I'm no moron. When I lived in AZ John McCain was a good man before `Bushco-Rover` boy highjacked the GOP. McCain should have been a Dem but now he's just another limp GOP puppet and lets Bushco pull his strings.

McCain is still a good man. `Bush-Rove` hijacking the GOP has not changes his outspokenness. He is not just another GOP puppet and noone pulls strings. McCain still criticizes the administration harshly. He also goes after waste such as the tnker lease deal the government signed with Boeing. McCain is not a big fan of Bush and also has recently said that he would not support any SS reform plan that did not have the tax increase inculded. He is a part of Graham's band of reformers that want a bipartisan solution.

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The morons who vote GOP against their own interests deserve to suffer, but the rest of us don't.[/quote]

I'm no moron. When I lived in AZ John McCain was a good man before `Bushco-Rover` boy highjacked the GOP. McCain should have been a Dem but now he's just another limp GOP puppet and lets Bushco pull his strings.[/quote]

Exactly my point.

You are, indeed, not a moron. Nor is our resident Lindsey Graham stalker (heh heh).

A moron is some farmer in western Kansas whose livelihood is being destroyed, actively and intentionally destroyed, by Bush's GOP policies, but still vociferously supports Dubya because of, ahem, "values."

THAT is a moron. THAT person deserves what BushCorp does to him.

Hey...if the GOP was still Teddy Roosevelt's GOP, I'd be a proud GOPian.

But it ain't. And I'm not.

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Exactly my point.

You are, indeed, not a moron. Nor is our resident Lindsey Graham stalker (heh heh).

A moron is some farmer in western Kansas whose livelihood is being destroyed, actively and intentionally destroyed, by Bush's GOP policies, but still vociferously supports Dubya because of, ahem, "values."

THAT is a moron. THAT person deserves what BushCorp does to him.

Hey...if the GOP was still Teddy Roosevelt's GOP, I'd be a proud GOPian.

But it ain't. And I'm not.[/quote]

thunderhawk--

Stalker, huh? he he! I think not. THank you.

What values? (the Kansas farmer) I contend that there are no "values voters" because we all vote our values.

I agree that he who lacks the courage or will to speak when he disagrees is a moron and a coward.